the romney camp, as good news, chris, since he is shown as trail anything a lot of these swing state polls as well. >> well, certainly it's not good news if you're president obama. if that's true, if you really have 18% persuadable voters, this comes after fife months -- five months of the most stained, negative attack, most personal barrage against a candidate by an incumbent president that we've ever seen. if there's still 18% of the people that say, well, you know, i'm hope to this guy, i'm open to hear what he has to say, that would include some romney voters who might be open to the president, but when you'd have an incumbent,ou'd expect that much persuade about would be good news for the challenger, that the president hasn't been able to convince all the persuadable voters that mitt romney is, in fact, a vampire. megyn: now, we saw during the republican presidential primary that these debates really can have an effect. candidates really were forced to leave the race based on their debate performances occasionally during that republican primary, so it's no accident that we have both s